Gamey Weekend

Agricola bits with Bohnanza on the table

The second weekend of the month is the gamiest. This month was no exception.
Owl House Game day, hosted by James (who is now a contributor on The Gaming Gang site), was on Saturday, and our own SSG@B&S (Second Sunday Gaming at Bryan and Shells') was Sunday.
Saturday, we had six players, and among other games, we learned Bohnanza, and  taught one of our newest games, Forbidden Island.
I've been interested in learning Bohnanza for a while, especially since the farmers in Agricola enjoy playing it. The uniqueness in this game is not being able to rearrange your cards, which was a very interesting thing to have to try to think through. I need a few more games under my belt to get the strategy down. A more thorough review can be found on The Game of The Day blog, I didn't mind the beans as much as he did. They were cute, and not everything can be zombies or robutts.

Forbidden Island was my suggestion to play, both Saturday and Sunday. After playing it with three and with two, I was interested to see how it played with more, and both times we had six, the max players...or so I thought.
I will readily admit, that I was the rules reader on this game, and I taught it the first time we played, and on Saturday (with help from The BFF), just checking a few specifics in the rule book. Saturday, we lost twice, and in a big way, but it was a fun experience.

Sunday, with my children and parents all present, that makes six again, so we sat down to play. That's when my dad actually read on the tin that it says 2-4 players!!

Since there are six pawn/roles, I just assumed up to six could play. No wonder we got creamed so hard on Saturday!
As we already had it out, and I was mostly done explaining the rules to the newbies when the mistake was noticed, we decided to go ahead and try it, not expecting a less watery death than any previous game.
We did allow one small cheat, starting the water marker at a make-believe level 1, just below the Novice level 2, but other than that, we really just got lucky with the cards we drew, and as you can see, we all six got to Fool's Landing just in the nick of time!

My kids went off to game in another part of the house, and The BFF and my parents and I got out Gemlok. I was a bit surprised by a couple things Sunday. One: that my folks actually read this blog (hi folks!), and B) that my mom really picked up the gauntlet that I unknowingly threw down when I said I didn't think she'd like the game, and she played her heart out!
She was ahead most of the game, but had an unfortunate roll of two Gemloks at once, when she didn't have anything good to 'lock', otherwise, I'm sure she would have won.
As it ended up, the perceived strongest player was rather picked on by the rest, allowing ME to win by one point!
Hah! It's good to not be a threat sometimes!

Android

Two Sundays in a row now, we've had a game of Android. Both of my kids, The BFF, and me.
The BFF got this game on a great sale, 50% off, and I hadn't heard much about it before he brought it home.
It plays 2-5, and it has so many different parts to the game, we've likened it to playing 3-4 games at once.
It's kind of a mystery, because you're trying to figure out who's guilty, but it's no Clue. Who ends up being guilty is determined by how much/what kind of evidence is put on each suspect.
So there's putting evidence onto suspects (my least-best part of playing this game), plus there's points to get on the board, your own character's plot to resolve (or not), a conspiracy grid to resolve by playing puzzle pieces, and probably something else I'm not remembering.
There really are so many different things to do. But it doesn't seem over complicated, once you dredge through the rules.
Oh, and the picture is with my new camera! Woot! is awesome!!

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Game Session: Killer Bunnies in Space

OK, I know that's not the real title of the game, but that's what I keep calling it. It's Killer Bunnies and the Journey to Jupiter. There, happy? ;p
Our monthly family game day, SSG@B&S (Second Sunday Gaming at Bryan and Shelly's) happened to fall on Easter, and without really thinking about it, I had been having a hankering to try Killer Bunnies in Space again. Then I also had a hankering to make deviled eggs...so Killer Bunnies and deviled eggs...On Easter...stereotypical much, shell?
Those present for our gaming, The BFF, The Artist Extreeme, and myself, agreed we all wanted to try KB and the J to J again, so we reread some of the spacey rules, and got the game set up. We have a good sized table, but this is one game that makes us wish for a larger one! There is so much stuff, and we didn't even have room for the organizing/cheat sheets we like to use for regular KB.
The game itself is fine, on the second playing, not counting the rules issues, it went much faster. We didn't get into any one-on-one combat, mostly because you have to be right next to the other player, and we were mostly all over the board. I almost wish the game would have taken longer, so we could have each gotten more ships on the board. I think each player getting 2-3 ships out there would be awesome, as it was, we each barely got a second ship out, and each lost the second ship pretty quickly. In the end, we each had two carrots, having decided at the beginning to play only six (duh! six carrots divided by three players...wasn't the best planning) The BFF had the 'magic' carrot, so he officially won.
Now about those rules issues. Or a sidebar dovetailed before the rules issues. I've been listening to and LOVING The Speil podcast for a few months now, including listening to the old shows, one of their segments is the Game Sommelier, trying to find the right game for the right group, and I've been attempting to think in sommelier terms when I'm picking games. [/sidebar]
This game, with these players, the sommelier didn't do such a great job. For one, all three of us tend to be 'rules lawyers', a phrase we've coined in our house, sometimes there can be more looking up clarification of rules than actually playing, or so it seems. I've tried to implement the idea (that I think I got from the On Board Games podcast) of just play it for now how the players agree the rule should be played, and take the extra time to look it up LATER, and most times that works ok most of the time. Unfortunately, we also had the Problem of Three working against us that day. The problem of three was first taught to me by my dad, who once, thirty something years ago, wouldn't let me do some activity with the two neighbor girls, because there would be three of us, and (paraphrasing) "when there's three, it's too easy for two to gang up against the other one." Even at that tender age, I knew this to be true, I had seen it already with these same girls, and it's something that I've always kept in mind with my own kids, and in the rest of my life.
In the case of a rules-lawyery kind of game, combined with the Problem of Three, it wasn't the most fun game session we've had. Another learning curve for the game sommelier in me.
After we ate (sandwiches and deviled eggs, of course), we played Dominion, which was a much better choice game for the three of us.

GEW9: Weekend Six / SSG@B&S

(That's Game Every Weekend 2009)

The BFF's son, Yehaw McK, was here for the weekend, and lots of gaming was done! There was a Magic tournament on Saturday that all four 'boys' were going to, and in preparation, there were a few practice games Friday evening to start the weekend. I am not a Magic player, I've tried it a couple times, I understand the concept, and have learned from trying it (as well as a couple other CCGs) that I do not enjoy deck building. If someone builds a deck for me in a CCG that I really like the concept of, like Deadlands, I'll definitely give it a go, but CCGs are not really for me.
So Saturday, after packing them each an awesome (if I do say so myself) snack bag of apple, box of animal crackers, package of cheese crackers, a couple string cheeses, a couple slim jims (none for the budding vegetarian), and a bottle of water, I sat down for a little Spore. OK, a lot of Spore. They were gone for HOURS! I've been concentrating on 'finishing' my first creature, he's in space, almost 3/4 'done'. Saturday, I did a few errands to raise enough bucks to increase my travel length and energy hold, and journeyed as close to the center of the universe as I could get. I did meet the Grox, and yes, they killed me. But one benefit to getting killed far away from home, you reappear back home. The guys all reappeared back home eventually, too, but none had won anything, which is surprising. Yehaw McK usually wins something in Magic tournaments, and often, a couple more do, too. The BFF consoled himself by buying Hunting which we'll have to try another weekend.
Sunday was our regular Second Sunday family gaming day, and The BFF and Yehaw McK had planned a nice Dungeons and Dragons day, but our printer wouldn't cooperate with the on-line creation sheets. So we switched to a card game day. We hadn't played Race For The Galaxy with five players yet, and we all enjoy that game. We also brought out Lord of the Fries, which I got for about six bucks a few weeks ago, when the 'other' Big Box Hobby and Gaming store had 75% off a few games.
Lord of the Fries was originally a Cheap Ass game (sorry, Mom, that's just their name). We have a few others on the shelf, but we haven't played many of them. I do love the cheapness and black-and-whiteness and lack-of-bit-ness of their games, such a change of pace from the heavy bits I usually love, I need to see about getting them to the table. This beautiful color version was put out by Steve Jackson games in cooperation with Cheap Ass games, and it has a lot of extras added beyond the original game. You are Zombies. What could be better than that? You are Zombies working in a fast food restaurant, feeding the humans, probably fattening up their brains for later consumption! There are eight different restaurant menus, all players (3-8) play off the same ones. You have to alter the deck (which are ingredients like meats, drinks, buns, sauce, etc) depending on which menu you're playing, so there are always some ingredients that are more rare for each menu. You deal out all the cards, 'make' the recipes on the menu, and the 'shift' is over when someone is out of cards. If you can't make the recipe called for, you give away a card, which is the biggest strategy in the game. In the beginning, you want to gather more cards to your own hand to be able to try for a bigger recipe (bigger recipe = more points!), but there is a time in the game that you don't want any more cards given to you, because the points in your hand count against the points you've earned from your recipes. We played a practice shift, and a whole game which consists of three shifts, and we all quite enjoyed it. Since two had never played before, we didn't use the timer, which is used to put a little pressure on the deciding player, deciding whether to roll for the recipe (when they would get all the cards that are passed), or pick a recipe they think no one else can make but them (then cards would pass to the left). We had all five of us playing only one of the 'shifts', and it sure does make a difference in how many cards you get, and how long it takes to get back to you. Since you only control the order being placed after you completed one, there are rounds that you don't get to put down too many points on the table at all. At one point, Rawk Star only had completed one menu item, with three cards, and he ran out of cards and stopped that round. He hadn't been able to make any more recipes, so he had given away all his cards. Very fun game! It played ok with three the first time we tried it, better with four or five, I will be excited to try it with six-eight sometime just for fun!
Gathering Storm, the expansion to Race For The Galaxy, adds a couple extra ways to get victory points, a solo game (which we haven't tried), and enough new worlds and other cards to play up to five players. The basic play of this game, if you haven't read about or played it yet, is you have a hand of cards, and you want to get some of them onto the table into your tableau, you also use your hand cards to 'pay' for what you bring out. Each turn is played in five stages, with a separate set of seven cards to determine what stage you want to play. This is a very cool game mechanic, and I don't know any other game that has something like this. Every player decides what stage they want to play in, and all put out their stage cards face down to be revealed at the same time when everyone is ready. All players get to play each stage that is revealed, but only the person(s) who played that particular stage card get to use the bonus for that stage. Even with five players, there were turns where only two of the five stages were able to be played, part of the strategy is trying to guess what stage everyone else is going to play. The cards you get into your tableau are going to give you victory points at the end, and/or give you an advantage during the game. The game stops at the turn that someone lays down their twelfth card, or someone picks up the last victory token (which we have never had happen in any of our games), and then everyone adds up their scores. The cards you bring to your tableau can work together in so many ways, the more expensive to bring out, the more they will probably help you. There are many strategies to play, mine is, see what starting world you get, and what you get in your first hand, and see how you can make it work together. I don't really enjoy trying to play military, but if that is what my starting world and starting hand lean towards, I have learned that I will get myself behind if I fight against my starting cards. And you can't get behind. It is a race after all. ;p
This is one of the best games I've ever played. It seems complicated at first with all the stages, they even give you huge cheat sheets to help you keep up, but it really ends up being much less complicated after you've played it a few times. The complexity is part of the beauty of it, trying for the most Alien cards, because you have the card that will give you bonus points for all of those Alien cards, but still trying to do it fast, because someone will definitely get twelve (or thirteen) in their tableau before you do! The BFF and son tried a modification after all of us who had to get up Monday morning had hit the hay, they went to sixteen in the tableau instead of twelve, and they enjoyed that as well.

SSG@B&S: December

We had a full house this month, as the BFF’s son, Yehaw McK, was able to join us for the first time, both of my kids were home, and my parents came down also. That makes a total of seven. And boy, do we need a bigger table!
Other game days we've played a longer, geekier game and a party game that's maybe short enough to play a couple times, and this month's game day was no exception.
We started with Killer Bunnies and the Journey to Jupiter the board game, which says it plays up to six, but there weren't specific pieces for the six, and there are lots of cards, so we figured we could do seven. We have been late to the KB extravaganza, and have only started collecting and playing Killer Bunnies and the Quest for the Magic Carrot earlier this year. The card game, we have blue, yellow, red, and violet so far. On the new board game, only the blue and yellow, ie, the starter. Not being experts on the card game, with the average plays around the table being maybe 2, and the rules for the board game being the same as for the card game for the first part, we got off to a slow start. The BFF had asked me to also read the rules, but unfortunately, I hadn't had time to. Having more than one person understanding the rules, and not having to actually read the rules at the table would have been nice.
Now, I know that a lot of game teachers say not to read the rules at the table, and I would definitely agree for teaching at a con. But sometimes at our house, the reading of the rules is part of the fun, especially when it's just the BFF and I learning a new game.
So Killer Bunnies board game didn't go so great on the first play, but I attribute that mostly to us all learning at the same time, there were too many stops to look things up and too many little things we got wrong along the way. We also wondered if just the blue and yellow together was a little defense-lite, we remembered that in the card game, the red deck brought more defense.
I'll definitely play this again, after more thorough read through of the rules, and probably a few less people.
After eating, we went for a much lighter game, also new from the big box, Zombie Fluxx. We actually did a few hands of Zombie and a few more of regular Fluxx, without mixing them together. Fluxx is the perfect simple game for this sized group. We laughed a lot playing this, and the earlier grumpiness was wiped away! Especially with the Zombie version, when the rule came out that everyone had to moan when they drew a Zombie Creeper card!

Rapid Recall

The other game that we played at this month’s family game day was Rapid Recall. This game is definitely in the Party Game category, playing with two teams of at least two, and could have many more. One thing we like in a party game is something that doesn’t HAVE to have even numbers on the teams. Since we’re mostly playing just for fun, we don’t get bent out of shape over teams, and always try to mix up who’s on which team.
Rapid Recall is one of the variations of Password, as in “Everyone loves Password, how can we change it just enough to make a new game of it?” Taboo is a good example of this. Rapid Recall is not.
In Rapid Recall, one team member has a list of words, and gives clues to his/her team, but the team doesn’t shout out the answers, they instead throw a chip into the chip bowl when they think they know the answer. After the timed period of clue giving and chip throwing, there is a separate timed period (and second timer) for the team members to rapidly recall all the answers they thought they knew, and take a chip from the bowl to signify they got the answer. If they miss any, then the other team also has a timed period to try to remember the answers, also taking the left over chips. The game is won when one team has enough chips to fill up their side of the board.
I think the concept is actually kinda good, but I think the execution is what kinda breaks this game. Team members tried to coach each other to remember the answers they had thrown their chip in for, which works in theory, but when others start listing words, it’s easy to forget what words you were trying to remember. Sometimes different team members thought of different answers for the same chip, and the rules say only the first answer counts (like if the answer was supposed to be flower, and they answer rose instead), so there was a little scuffling if someone answered quicker and wrong. It was also very difficult to get momentum back if it was lost, especially for the second team to try to venture guesses. If there was any discussion at all, we’d all get off track, then you can’t remember anything!
I would rearrange the concept a bit and try it again. Here’s my idea of better mechanics to the good concept:
Everyone plays for themselves. Players take turns around the table reading the clues, and everyone has a turn giving clues (once or twice around depending on how many people you have). All other players are the guessers and like in the real rules, they throw in a chip when they think they know the answer, and the giving of clues and throwing in of chips is still timed. Then on to the guessing of clues, which will not be timed, but will go in turn around the table, starting with the player on the clue giver’s left. Each player makes a guess or passes, and if they got one of the words, they take a chip, and play continues around the table until either all the chips are gone or all players pass in turn. You don’t have to only guess the answers you personally put in, and similar answers can still be guessed. How many chips each player gets each round is added up, and after everyone has had a turn (or two) giving clues, the winner is whoever has the most chips, representing the most correct answers. You’ll have to make sure to keep guessing chips and scoring chips separate, which could be done using the two different colors that came with the game, or after each clue giving round, the number of correct answers everyone has is just written down. That might be easier.
I think this would be fun in the guessing and remembering parts, and there will definitely be a benefit to being the person on the clue giver’s left. The most recent answer will probably be on the tip of the tongue, no matter who threw in the chip. Or players might try to only remember their own answers, but by the time it gets to them, their answers were already given. It could be a fun party ruckus.
I picked up this game at a thrift store, Extreeme Artist and I love to go thrifting, and I always look for games. Unfortunately, the one brand of thrift store we usually go to because of it’s better hours, is the one that prices games a bit higher than the others. But I guess $2 or $4, a game for under five bucks is a good bargain even if you end up only playing it once. That being said, I still want to get my money’s worth, and besides playability, I’m usually checking for good bits.
This game has very interesting bits, two colors of plastic chips (which do rather resemble a puffy Dorito); three cups to hold the chips, two triangle ones that are the same colors as the chips, and one larger one to throw the chips into; the board with triangles of the same colors with a hole in the center to set the larger cup into; two sand timers of different time; the box of questions; and the device to put the question card into, which has a handy sliding arrow to mark which words have been guessed. All these bits would have many uses, counting games with little ones, markers for other games, guitar picks, cups for actual chips, you get the idea. And another box of words for whatever other Password-like game you like to play.
Hmmm, you could use the sliding arrow card holder to check off your grocery items…

Agricola: Family Photo

So here's the photo of us playing Agricola on game day.
Sorry, I'm not in the shot, someone had to take the picture. ;p



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SSG@B&S

Yesterday was the second Sunday of the month, so time again for SSG@B&S (Second Sunday Gaming At Bryan And Shell's).
I started this family game day a couple months ago, it's not just about the gaming, it’s about the family and close friends. With the BFF’s son already a legal adult, and my two getting closer to that age every day, I wanted to set up a tradition, something that will give them an excuse to come home every once in a while after they have moved out. And the bonus is it gives my parents and brother the excuse to come over, too. My folks are retired and do volunteer work in different parts of the country, and are gone about half of the year on their trips, so it's nice to see them when they are in the state. My brother lives in the same city as we do, he actually lives across the street from the parking lot I park in for work, but just like in any busy family, we really don’t see each other that often. But since gaming was always a part of our life when my brother and I were growing up, it's still something that can bring us all together.
Yesterday was this months game day. My parents and my children played Agricola for the first time, with the BFF and I. We played the Family rules. My brother got here after we had started, but was happy to play Spore on the computer while we were farming. We also played a party game called Rapid Recall that I had picked up at the thrift store. I'll write more this week about each of these games.

Game Day October: Agricola

We started a family and close friends Game Day a couple months ago. I'd been thinking about starting this for a while, I wanted for one, to have a good reason for all the teenager-almost-adult kids to come visit once a month, to start a family tradition that will carry for years. So far, they've been small, which is fine, building up the tradition. This month, yesterday, it was the smallest so far, with just the BFF and I in attendance, but that's fine, because we all gamed a lot last weekend.
Since Agricola is my hot game right now, we played two games of that. We sure discovered the differences between a two player game and a five player game!
Part of how Agricola is varied depending on players, besides having three different decks to choose from, is that some cards are only in play depending on how many people are playing. Each pack has cards for 1+, 3+, and 4+ players, so for solo play and two player, the cards available are the same. We talked about having a ghost third player, and we could roll a die to decide their turn, or just cheating and adding in the 3+ cards, but we didn't try that yet.
The cards distracted us again, I would say, and not getting things out in the right order. Some of the cards have to be played before certain activities and vice-versa, and it's still tricky to plan far enough ahead of time to get it all done properly.
We each won one game, the BFF said on the second game, he purposely took the wood before I could get it, because he thought that was how I beat him the first time. I've heard that in each number of players, there are certain resources that are harder to get, I guess wood is harder to get in a two player game.